Samsung F1 series hard drives w/1TB model

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:06 pm

The wait is over:

Samsung AMD 1TB F1 HD102UJ SATA2 7200 16mb
EUR 349,99
20 of 20 available
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Samsung AMD 1TB F1 HD103UJ SATA2 7200 32mb
EUR 349,99
20 of 20 available
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klankymen · Post by **klankymen** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:52 pm

SileX wrote:The wait is over

with a 97.1% rating? I don't think the wait is over yet....

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:04 pm

I don't think Ebay counts as being available yet.

Ebay is still a pretty shady place to do business. I was getting burned on about 1 out of 4 transactions, even from top rated resellers back when I last used it regularly. It was just too much of a headache to me, I don't think I actually saved any money in the long run when you account for lost shipping charges, at least one product just plain never delivered at all, and so on.

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:03 pm

Thats very expensive.

OCUK have the drive listed at Â£218 inc VAT, which is 312 euro's.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=940

Special offer this week on the sHitachi 1TB drive - Â£200 inc VAT.

Andy

JazzJackRabbit · Post by **JazzJackRabbit** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:57 am

Heh, I wish 502IJ was available already. It always takes a while for samsung drives to become available in USA and when they do they often go out of stock.

xilencer · Post by **xilencer** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:30 am

Just noticed new 640GB capacity point has been added! So there's now 3 full density double sided disc models: HD322HJ, HD642JJ, HD103UJ

JazzJackRabbit · Post by **JazzJackRabbit** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:58 pm

640GB model is more attractive than 500 IMO. Two full platters and no wasted capacity.

Too bad it's another paper release. Samsung keeps announcing new drives, but they are yet to be found anywhere.

PASware · Post by **PASware** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:15 pm

JazzJackRabbit wrote:640GB model is more attractive than 500 IMO. Two full platters and no wasted capacity.

Too bad it's another paper release. Samsung keeps announcing new drives, but they are yet to be found anywhere.

Yeah, there's a long time between paper release and real release. But its a matter of days/weeks and the 1TB 334gb platter drives will arive.
The 334GB platters are ready to sell, so the 640gb drive will be "easy" to make for Samsung. Take a 1TB drive, take on platter of it, and there you have the 640gb version.
Simple, i guess.

silentbobbo · Post by **silentbobbo** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:24 am

Samsung gets the vaporware award. Still have not heard from anyone who has actually received a Samsung drive. 6 months and counting. I'm glad I gave up on Samsung and went with the WD.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:19 am

silentbobbo wrote:Samsung gets the vaporware award. Still have not heard from anyone who has actually received a Samsung drive. 6 months and counting. I'm glad I gave up on Samsung and went with the WD.

You get the FUD award. It has been available for weeks now. Just buy it!

whiic · Post by **whiic** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:30 am

JazzJackRabbit wrote:640GB model is more attractive than 500 IMO. Two full platters and no wasted capacity.

There would be wasted capacity... around 27 GB. They should make it a 666 GB drive. I'd sell my grandmother to get one of those Beasts (with a capital B). Or should I call it a Devil, Satan or Lucifer instead...

silentbobbo · Post by **silentbobbo** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:51 am

SileX wrote:
silentbobbo wrote:Samsung gets the vaporware award. Still have not heard from anyone who has actually received a Samsung drive. 6 months and counting. I'm glad I gave up on Samsung and went with the WD.
You get the FUD award. It has been available for weeks now. Just buy it!

Take a look at pricegrabber.com, which tracks hundreds of stores. No spinpoint F1's listed. There's this little market called the USA that Samsung isn't selling to yet. As far as I can tell they shipped 5 of them to Switzerland and 3 to Australia.

Actually Samsung gets the FUD award... there are articles talking about how it shipped last June... still don't see any postings from anyone who received one. They really put the Spin in Spinpoint.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:29 am

silentbobbo wrote:
SileX wrote:
silentbobbo wrote:Samsung gets the vaporware award. Still have not heard from anyone who has actually received a Samsung drive. 6 months and counting. I'm glad I gave up on Samsung and went with the WD.
You get the FUD award. It has been available for weeks now. Just buy it!
Take a look at pricegrabber.com, which tracks hundreds of stores. No spinpoint F1's listed. There's this little market called the USA that Samsung isn't selling to yet. As far as I can tell they shipped 5 of them to Switzerland and 3 to Australia.

Actually Samsung gets the FUD award... there are articles talking about how it shipped last June... still don't see any postings from anyone who received one. They really put the Spin in Spinpoint.

You can purchase it NOW in the States here:

http://forums.storagereview.net/index.p ... &start=175

THERE ARE ALSO a handful reviews of people who HAVE RECEIVED them weeks ago! Just Search for it and you will find it.

cavarr · Post by **cavarr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:59 am

I buy new disk Samsung F1 750GB and speed is too low

why ?????

PCI CONTROLLER VIA VT6421A sata1

sheninat0r · Post by **sheninat0r** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:22 pm

You think 100MB/s is slow... what do you need such amazing speeds for? 100MB/s is good for a mechanical HDD. The reason your speed might be lower than a reviewed speed is because of system differences... motherboard chipset, CPU, RAM, mobo, other hardware, cables [maybe?], blah blah blah.

trxman · Post by **trxman** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:41 pm

drivers, too...

winguy · Post by **winguy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:22 pm

Hmm.. 250gb/platter for the 750gb?

zzombi · Post by **zzombi** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:07 am

"Hmm.. 250gb/platter for the 750gb?"

Exactly. Besides STR the access time gives it away.

I am only interested in the 320GB F1. It has amazing low noise and consumption, so it will make a nice final HDD before SSD era for me. I would also consider a hybrid disk, but only 256MB won't do.

Interesting the 640GB looks better with only 2 platters, but retains the extra actuators. Yuck.

Worth mentioning is the S250 series with 3.5" HDD lowest consumption heard of, 3W idle.

Cryoburner · Post by **Cryoburner** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:46 am

Newegg now has the 1000 and 750 gig F1s available as OEM drives for USD $279.99 and $179.99 respectively. That's actually lower than they're selling most other drives of similar capacity for.

I'm interested in the 320 gig though, which they don't yet have. So long as it performs nicely, it should make a good replacement for my Spinpoint 160, which has become rather full over the last few years. I don't plan on replacing my primary desktop for at least another year, and that should be plenty of storage to cover my remaining use of the system, while alllowing me to relegate the current drive to backups.

It certainly took them long enough to release these. I was looking into getting a new drive this summer, but decided to hold out for the F1s, which were supposedly already "shipping". Let's just hope that the other capacities will be available relatively soon. : )

nick705 · Post by **nick705** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:06 am

cavarr wrote:I buy new disk Samsung F1 750GB and speed is too low why ?????

I don't know, but at least you win the daily prize for "pointless posting of unnecessarily large images."

JazzJackRabbit · Post by **JazzJackRabbit** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:09 am

Cryoburner wrote:Newegg now has the 1000 and 750 gig F1s available as OEM drives for USD $279.99 and $179.99 respectively. That's actually lower than they're selling most other drives of similar capacity for.

Thanks for the heads up. It's nice to see F1 finally getting here. I'm waiting for 640GB model as I said before though.

beoba · Post by **beoba** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:01 pm

Another good reason for an SPCR update to the hard drive recs?

KenAF · Post by **KenAF** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:54 pm

Do we have any real world reports on the acoustics yet?

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:59 pm

KenAF wrote:Do we have any real world reports on the acoustics yet?

Here:

viewtopic.php?t=43076

Best one overall? Samsung, hands down!

roadie · Post by **roadie** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:44 am

I too am interested in the 320Gb drive. I already have a 320GB T166 "general storage" drive, which is ace but would like a faster drive to put my games on, rather than the crappy 80Gb Maxtor I currently use.

mandoman · Post by **mandoman** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:29 am

Sweet, Newegg has the F1s!!! Now I just need
to wait a little longer for the Raid versions of
the WD GP and Samsung F1 (and benchmarks) and
decide between those two for the Raid 5 NAS I want
to build.

Kaleid · Post by **Kaleid** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:55 pm

Good to know that I should stay clear from the 750GB.

Oh how disappointing it would've been to have 250GB / platter..

klankymen · Post by **klankymen** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:03 pm

not that I'm willing to spend that much money, but I was wondering how one F1 would stack up to 4x 320GB laptop drives in raid5?

I'd be willing to guess the laptop drives would be quieter?
but performance would be lower, how much? I'm assuming the high transfer rates found in big drives like the F1 would also be found in big laptop drives?
does anyone have any power figures for the F1 yet? laptop drives are not many watts, but timesed by 4 that does add up....

zzombi · Post by **zzombi** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:52 am

"I'm assuming the high transfer rates found in big drives like the F1 would also be found in big laptop drives?"

No, tracks are shorter, even if they had same rpm.

There's little point splitting volumes in many drives, besides redundancy. High STR can only do so much before IO/s (related to mechanical latencies) and other things limit. Best combo now is SSD for system and HDD for archives. A larger flash F1 (4-8GB) hybrid would shine. The F1WRC.

Schlotkins · Post by **Schlotkins** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:28 am

Anyone get one of these yet? I'm thinking about getting one but hate to be the tester..