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Thought more people would find this product interesting.
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I recon your spot on there jaganath when saying that this will be all but an el cheapo cooler ! but, it might just be worth the plunch if it actually would perform as Danamics seem to state.
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Missed the most obvious one I guess, its height, could become a problem.
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I recon your spot on there jaganath when saying that this will be all but an el cheapo cooler ! but, it might just be worth the plunch if it actually would perform as Danamics seem to state.
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Missed the most obvious one I guess, its height, could become a problem.
This probably won't perform that much better than normal heatpipes. Liquid metal is not likely to undergo a phase change to gaseous, such as water does in the normal under-pressurised heatpipes. Water has the highest warmth capcity and enthalpy of vaporisation, therefore absorbs a lot of energy during the phase-change. The only big advantage is the higher density and consequently a swifter warmth transport to the circulating medium.
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Its still very intresting thing. Electromagnetic pump and all. It probably be even more expensive than TR IFX-14... Depending how well it perform, price tag might have good basis but it should clearly beat most effective air coolers and some water cooling system if its price is like 90€'s or more..
liquid metal, electromagnetic pump.. doesn't sound budget cooler by a longshot...
liquid metal, electromagnetic pump.. doesn't sound budget cooler by a longshot...
For the electromagnetic pump I found something that is very interresting.
http://www.novamaxindustrial.com/docs/E ... r%20NX.pdf
This is an existing electromagnetic pump thats have the capacities for computer cooling. Thats to give to the SPCR community an idea of the cooling capacities of this kind of system.
The metal liquid can be: lithium, sodium, potassium, or sodium-potassium alloys are pumped. Other metallic and nonmetallic liquids of sufficiently high electrical conductivity, such as mercury or molten aluminum, lead, and bismuth can be used.
This kind of thechnology is used on nuclear cooling application.
http://www.novamaxindustrial.com/docs/E ... r%20NX.pdf
This is an existing electromagnetic pump thats have the capacities for computer cooling. Thats to give to the SPCR community an idea of the cooling capacities of this kind of system.
The metal liquid can be: lithium, sodium, potassium, or sodium-potassium alloys are pumped. Other metallic and nonmetallic liquids of sufficiently high electrical conductivity, such as mercury or molten aluminum, lead, and bismuth can be used.
This kind of thechnology is used on nuclear cooling application.
technically they don't blow up (detonation), they catch fire (deflagration).Cistron wrote:Lithium, sodium and potassium alloys? You do realise that these things blow up in contact with water or oxygen? Especially a sodium/potassium eutectikum is ... well ... veeeeeeeery anal to handle.
Are they really used in nuclear reactors?
http://www.igcar.ernet.in/igc2004/sg/sodiumfire.htm
mostly it has only been used in experimental reactors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superphenix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMFBR
might be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galinstan
Though I'm not sure how this would be moved by an electromagnetic pump.
Though I'm not sure how this would be moved by an electromagnetic pump.
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Nice idea, but.... In late 1970's and 1980's Soviet Union operated a number of nuclear submarines with reactor cooled by liquid metal. This construction has one important downside - they had to keep cooling system hot when reactor was off because temperature of the coolant should not drop below certain level. Interesting, how they solve this problem in this case.
Sorry about poor English
Wojtek
Sorry about poor English
Wojtek
Regardless of all the liquid metal and electromagnetic pump handwavium, the heat still has to get off the fins and into the surrounding air. Assuming that's the least efficient interface in the chain, surely the overall efficiency isn't going to differ much from a standard heatpipe design of similar proportions anyway? Or am I missing something?
An excellent solid TIM used in the 1970's and early 80's with metal-ceramic vacuum tubes to transfer heat to an external heatsink rather than use forced air was to use a small plate of beryllium between the bodt of the tube and the aluminum heatsink. Unfortuantely beryllium is a bit brittle (about like ceramic floor tile and the dust is highly toxic.
Just think though - if it can suck the heat away from a rf amplifier tube generating 1kw of rf energy what it could do for overclocking
Just think though - if it can suck the heat away from a rf amplifier tube generating 1kw of rf energy what it could do for overclocking
Danamics LM10 has been released today: http://danamics.com
Price is about €280 (about $360), not really cheap.
Price is about €280 (about $360), not really cheap.
As previously mentioned, it does look like the heat "somehow" needs to get off the fins, liquid metal or no liquid metal. So it may not be as effective as even full watercooling much less a TEC or similar. I'm hoping to be wrong however...
But even if it's "almost" as good as proper watercooling with the convenience of air and more quiet than both (i.e. no active pump), then might still be worth a look. Except for that price...
Looking forward to that review from NordicHardware!
But even if it's "almost" as good as proper watercooling with the convenience of air and more quiet than both (i.e. no active pump), then might still be worth a look. Except for that price...
Looking forward to that review from NordicHardware!
Look at heat dissipation area..it stands no chance when compared to PA120.3 with a good block even if metal works better than water and electromagnetic pump adds much less heat to the loop.echn111 wrote:As previously mentioned, it does look like the heat "somehow" needs to get off the fins, liquid metal or no liquid metal. So it may not be as effective as even full watercooling much less a TEC or similar. I'm hoping to be wrong however...
But even if it's "almost" as good as proper watercooling with the convenience of air and more quiet than both (i.e. no active pump), then might still be worth a look. Except for that price...
Looking forward to that review from NordicHardware!
It's compact, foolproof and almost maintenance free though.
Review.
Worse than TRUE.
Worse than TRUE.
Some regulations? Somebody from US may explain this sentence?Fortunately we don’t have free water inside our PCs and you will never hear a story of how a PC got damaged when the pipes of an LM10 started leaking. Unfortunately this means that the cooler will not be available in the USA, but only inside the European Union.