2TB "Green" HDD: Samsung or Western Digital?
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2TB "Green" HDD: Samsung or Western Digital?
My 640GB Caviar Blue is nearing full capacity and I'm in the hunt for a new HDD. I'm considering the following:
Samsung F3 EcoGreen HD203WI 2TB - 129 €
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB - 133 €
According to SPCR's review the Western Digital disks are quieter (and the new versions have 4K sectors) so is there any good reason NOT to choose WD?
Also, I initially considered the 1.5TB versions but since I'm not planning on replacing it any time soon I decided on the 2TB, unless they're considerably noisier than the 1.5TB versions or have other drawbacks.
They're strictly for storage, of course.
Samsung F3 EcoGreen HD203WI 2TB - 129 €
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB - 133 €
According to SPCR's review the Western Digital disks are quieter (and the new versions have 4K sectors) so is there any good reason NOT to choose WD?
Also, I initially considered the 1.5TB versions but since I'm not planning on replacing it any time soon I decided on the 2TB, unless they're considerably noisier than the 1.5TB versions or have other drawbacks.
They're strictly for storage, of course.
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I have no problem with the acoustics of the HD204WI even though my computer is on the desk close by. Although I have no experience with WD, the 10 Samsung SATA drives I own have never been loud or unreliable.
Here in the USA a Newegg deal was offered today for $120 USD on the 2TB Samsung. Prices seem to be trending down fast.
Here in the USA a Newegg deal was offered today for $120 USD on the 2TB Samsung. Prices seem to be trending down fast.
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Firmware issues have plagued the 1.5TB and larger drives.
For technical reasons I would avoid 1.5TB and 2TB drives and get something with 2 x 500GB platters (1TB total).
See viewtopic.php?p=509707&highlight=#509707 for more thoughts on general HD issues.
For technical reasons I would avoid 1.5TB and 2TB drives and get something with 2 x 500GB platters (1TB total).
See viewtopic.php?p=509707&highlight=#509707 for more thoughts on general HD issues.
Do you have any links to share? I tried googling earlier and didn't find anything definitive, other than some trouble with some RAID setups or Synology boxes. Don't get me wrong, if I wanted a RAID setup it would definitely give me pause. But it all seems like a crapshoot--it doesn't seem like the # of platters should matter (firmware wise), but I haven't done a ton of research...dhanson865 wrote:Firmware issues have plagued the 1.5TB and larger drives.
For technical reasons I would avoid 1.5TB and 2TB drives and get something with 2 x 500GB platters (1TB total).
All things being equal, space in my TJ08 case is tight, so I'd rather have the most GB/cc Anyway, you don't have to "prove" yourself, I'm just curious if you have any interesting links, like admissions from WD customer service on issues, etc etc.
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Here is some statistically relevant information
Newegg Customer Reviews - Samsung 2TB vs WD 2TB
Samsung 130 Customer Reviews
77% rate as 5
8% rate as 4
4% rate as 3
2% rate as 2
9% rate as 1
WD 77 Customer Reviews
53% rate as 5
21% rate as 4
8% rate as 3
5% rate as 2
13% rate as 1
Go with Samsung. I have the HD203WI. My only mistake was not buying when the $120 offer was in effect.
Newegg Customer Reviews - Samsung 2TB vs WD 2TB
Samsung 130 Customer Reviews
77% rate as 5
8% rate as 4
4% rate as 3
2% rate as 2
9% rate as 1
WD 77 Customer Reviews
53% rate as 5
21% rate as 4
8% rate as 3
5% rate as 2
13% rate as 1
Go with Samsung. I have the HD203WI. My only mistake was not buying when the $120 offer was in effect.
I think I'll dispense with Newegg customer "reviews". If people can't be bothered to check a new drive for errors before starting to fill all of its 2TB with junk then it's their own fault. Hard drives can be damaged during transport or have manufacture faults. That happens with all manufacturers.Michael Sandstrom wrote:Here is some statistically relevant information
Newegg Customer Reviews - Samsung 2TB vs WD 2TB
Rating it one star because it was a DOA is just plain stupidity. Same as rating it 2 or 3 stars because they're using ancient Operating Systems and are unable to follow simple instructions to make it work with said ancient OS. Or complaining that it's slow when they fail to follow said instructions when using ancient OS.
More than 50% of one star "reviews" from Newegg are due to DOAs or people's own stupidity so I don't touch Newegg "reviews" with a 10ft pole.
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I agree that individual Newegg reviews are often nonsense, but when there are large numbers of opinions supporting or panning a product I take that into account. However, your poll above is never going to have enough responses to be of value.
SPCR's review of the WD Ecogreen 2TB reports that the unit is exceptionally quiet. How it compares with the Samsung HD201WI is uncertain. As of today, the HD201WI has not been reviewed here.
SPCR's review of the WD Ecogreen 2TB reports that the unit is exceptionally quiet. How it compares with the Samsung HD201WI is uncertain. As of today, the HD201WI has not been reviewed here.
Oh, and BTW I got the new revision of the drive
http://vr-zone.com/articles/western-dig ... /9141.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/western-dig ... /9141.html
I've had several Samsung drives over the years, and no problems so far (knock on wood) so I decided to keep the trend going. I picked up one HD203WI at $120 and two more at $115 (current newegg promo). I can't really comment on the noise because they will be stashed away in my server in the closet...
I do have an WD10EADS and have not had any problems with it, but for the 2TB WD drives, I was under the impression (rightly or wrongly) that advanced formatting would be a pain to deal with, and that also swayed me towards the Samsungs.
I do have an WD10EADS and have not had any problems with it, but for the 2TB WD drives, I was under the impression (rightly or wrongly) that advanced formatting would be a pain to deal with, and that also swayed me towards the Samsungs.
the problems are with the WD's smart headparking sceme which softparks the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity. Linux likes to do some sort of drive access every 10 or so seconds which drives the headpark counts through the roof and eventualy causing wear issues.
At least that is how i understand it. I have not heard of such issues under normal windows or even windows server software raid. That said i have always had reservations buying the largest capacity drives as i tend to think fewer platters and heads would be more relyable. That is why i would favor 1.5tb drives over 2tb drives. (3 vs 4 platters?)
At least that is how i understand it. I have not heard of such issues under normal windows or even windows server software raid. That said i have always had reservations buying the largest capacity drives as i tend to think fewer platters and heads would be more relyable. That is why i would favor 1.5tb drives over 2tb drives. (3 vs 4 platters?)
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Roughly twice as many people still use XP than Vista and Windows 7 combined, so it's not exactly obsolete. : ) XP is still officially supported by Microsoft for another 4 years, and they are still selling new copies of XP for netbooks, so it continues to be an active product.rpsgc wrote:Only if you use an obsolete OS, like XP ;)
If you're building a new desktop computer, there's probably little reason to go with XP over Windows 7, but for most people with existing computers, it doesn't make much sense to upgrade their OS. Additional storage is a common upgrade though, so it's certainly something to keep in mind.
Re-aligning sectors can be necessary under Windows 7 and Vista as well, when using disk-imaging software to clone partitions, so it's not just an issue for older operating systems. In any case, WD offers utilities to perform the alignment, so it's probably not a huge issue if you know what needs to be done.
I don't think anyone has ever verified that the excessive head parks are likely to cause wear issues, just that they can put drives over their rated number of parks. Even so, if you know of the potential issue and it affects your system, it shouldn't be particularly hard to remedy.vortex222 wrote:the problems are with the WD's smart headparking sceme which softparks the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity. Linux likes to do some sort of drive access every 10 or so seconds which drives the headpark counts through the roof and eventualy causing wear issues.