Need advice for an almost silent AM3 build?
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Need advice for an almost silent AM3 build?
Yo!
Have been lurking around for some time and i wanted to know if these components are good for an almost silent AM3 build, It's been a while since i last put one together one. (Have been using laptops since then and is quite tired of noise they make DX)
Case: Antec P183 (Maybe removing the included fans and using some 3rd party)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W (Can the MB itself do the undervolting when it runs on idle)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (Thinking that maybe i could remove the fans) or CoolIT ECO A.L.C.
Mothership ;P: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 2TB WD Caviar Green WD20EARS (Raid 1) (Storage)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) 4GB 2x2GB or OCZ Platinum AMD Edition 1333MHz 1.65V CL7 (7-7-7-20) 4GB 2x2GB
GPU: Will be using the IGP until Nvidia releases those GF106 or GF108 cards.
Hayate M.
P.S: Sorry if my English is bad XD
Have been lurking around for some time and i wanted to know if these components are good for an almost silent AM3 build, It's been a while since i last put one together one. (Have been using laptops since then and is quite tired of noise they make DX)
Case: Antec P183 (Maybe removing the included fans and using some 3rd party)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W (Can the MB itself do the undervolting when it runs on idle)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (Thinking that maybe i could remove the fans) or CoolIT ECO A.L.C.
Mothership ;P: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 2TB WD Caviar Green WD20EARS (Raid 1) (Storage)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) 4GB 2x2GB or OCZ Platinum AMD Edition 1333MHz 1.65V CL7 (7-7-7-20) 4GB 2x2GB
GPU: Will be using the IGP until Nvidia releases those GF106 or GF108 cards.
Hayate M.
P.S: Sorry if my English is bad XD
If you're adding fans, I don't see why you couldn't also consider the Thermalright HR-01 plus w/ fan duct running passive. The duct does help with the CPU temp, but, more importantly, makes a tremendous difference on mobo temps as it doesn't allow the CPU heat to linger within the case.
I don't think you would need the additional fan on the heatsink itself if you set up a good airflow with a front fan or two depending upon your other needs. If you're going for a big overclock, then I can see going for the coolers you mentioned in the poll. I'm a fan of simpler being better, so I'd go with the Noctua cooler over the liquid cooling system, in spite of it being a more efficient cooler.
I don't think you would need the additional fan on the heatsink itself if you set up a good airflow with a front fan or two depending upon your other needs. If you're going for a big overclock, then I can see going for the coolers you mentioned in the poll. I'm a fan of simpler being better, so I'd go with the Noctua cooler over the liquid cooling system, in spite of it being a more efficient cooler.
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Completely forgot to add, that i didn't want to overclock, just wanted it to stay cool, so perhaps i don't really need any of the coolers, but which passive cooler do you so suggest i need?
EDIT: Didn't see that you had written about the Thermalright HR-01, I didn't think about it since i pretty much cant find it where i live :/
EDIT: Didn't see that you had written about the Thermalright HR-01, I didn't think about it since i pretty much cant find it where i live :/
Are you able to obtain a Scythe Ninja 3? I'm not aware of any passive coolers that can perform as well as the Thermalright HR-01 plus. There are other active air cooling designs that will work well with the phenom IIx4 965BE if you're not going to OC. I would recommend something from the recommended heatsinks list at http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks
BTW, reviews I've read seem to indicate that the Coolit ECO isn't particularly quiet.
BTW, reviews I've read seem to indicate that the Coolit ECO isn't particularly quiet.
Hayate19XX: Välkommen till SPCR!!
Avoid the CoolIT unless you know the pump is silent, which I doubt it is. Edit: Seems quiet, but not everyone think so.
Have a look at this list to see how little difference the most expensive heatsinks makes. The Cogage TRUE Spirit 1366 is a bargain with its low price of €28 in Germany, haven't seen it in Denmark or Sweden.
Here's the Scythe NINJA 2 Rev.B SCNJ-2100.
Here's a passive cooling review in German.
I can't find the Ninja 3.
Avoid the CoolIT unless you know the pump is silent, which I doubt it is. Edit: Seems quiet, but not everyone think so.
Have a look at this list to see how little difference the most expensive heatsinks makes. The Cogage TRUE Spirit 1366 is a bargain with its low price of €28 in Germany, haven't seen it in Denmark or Sweden.
Here's the Scythe NINJA 2 Rev.B SCNJ-2100.
Here's a passive cooling review in German.
I can't find the Ninja 3.
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@widdlecat:
1) it would be useful if you would not use pink/violet color through your whole post, as it is pretty much unreadable on the standard grey background. What is next ? Grey on grey ?
2) There is no such thing as Ninja 3 in EU/USA market. The only versions are sold in non-Japansese markets are Ninja 2 and NINJA 2 Rev.B (before that Ninja, Ninja rev.B and Ninja Copper). Ninja 3 is maybe comming out somewhere next month according to post on Scythe forums - but we all know how good these estimates are (usually they miss the mark by few months) for Europe release dates (if i translated Hayate's location correctly as in Coppenhagen, Denmark).
@Hayate:
1) removing fans in any Antec case is a must, no offense to Antec but their fans are garbage. Replace them with Noctua, Noiseblocker Multiframe, Enermax Magma,...
2) for a silent rig, it is a good idea to use some inteligent fan controller, like T-Balancer bigNG together with their software.
3) For passive cooling, the only real possibilities are Scythe Ninja and HR-01 Plus. Any other CPU cooler known to me has their fins too close to each other to allow effective passive cooling. Now if you are thinking about going semi-passive (300-400RPM fan in idle), then you can choose pretty much any cooler, NH-D14 is a good idea in this case as you can run their fans on low RPM pretty much whole time.
4) PSU - If you want to go silent, get Seasonic X 650 or 750. Those are dead silent PSU's, and i mean it seriously - they spin their fans in my i5 + HD5870 rig just once in a while, and even that is impossible to hear.
5) RAM - be aware that if you will use NH-D14, then this is the only possible mounting direction (another pic), this you will need standard height RAM modules (=RAM modules with height of Corsair Dominator or even higher are a problem).
1) it would be useful if you would not use pink/violet color through your whole post, as it is pretty much unreadable on the standard grey background. What is next ? Grey on grey ?
2) There is no such thing as Ninja 3 in EU/USA market. The only versions are sold in non-Japansese markets are Ninja 2 and NINJA 2 Rev.B (before that Ninja, Ninja rev.B and Ninja Copper). Ninja 3 is maybe comming out somewhere next month according to post on Scythe forums - but we all know how good these estimates are (usually they miss the mark by few months) for Europe release dates (if i translated Hayate's location correctly as in Coppenhagen, Denmark).
@Hayate:
1) removing fans in any Antec case is a must, no offense to Antec but their fans are garbage. Replace them with Noctua, Noiseblocker Multiframe, Enermax Magma,...
2) for a silent rig, it is a good idea to use some inteligent fan controller, like T-Balancer bigNG together with their software.
3) For passive cooling, the only real possibilities are Scythe Ninja and HR-01 Plus. Any other CPU cooler known to me has their fins too close to each other to allow effective passive cooling. Now if you are thinking about going semi-passive (300-400RPM fan in idle), then you can choose pretty much any cooler, NH-D14 is a good idea in this case as you can run their fans on low RPM pretty much whole time.
4) PSU - If you want to go silent, get Seasonic X 650 or 750. Those are dead silent PSU's, and i mean it seriously - they spin their fans in my i5 + HD5870 rig just once in a while, and even that is impossible to hear.
5) RAM - be aware that if you will use NH-D14, then this is the only possible mounting direction (another pic), this you will need standard height RAM modules (=RAM modules with height of Corsair Dominator or even higher are a problem).
I think his choice will be just fine: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1044-page5.htmfaugusztin wrote: 4) PSU - If you want to go silent, get Seasonic X 650 or 750. Those are dead silent PSU's, and i mean it seriously - they spin their fans in my i5 + HD5870 rig just once in a while, and even that is impossible to hear.
The Enermax Modu/Pro87+ 500W actually manages to be quieter than any other PSUs at every load, with the sole exception of <100W where the Seasonic X-650 fanless operation may have a dB or two edge — if indeed the 11 dBA@1m level is audible to anyone. Up to 250W, it is simply inaudible, period.
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Final specs:
Case: Antec P183 (Removing included fans, will be using some Noctua or Nexus fans instead)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Thor's Hammer (And it seems i got an CoolIT ECO A.L.C too, since i pretty much got it for free )
MB: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 1.5TB WD Caviar Green WD15EARS (Raid 1) (Storage)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W (Couldn't get the Seasonic X-650 since there where not in stock :/)
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) (Quite the Low Voltage)
GPU: Using the IGP until Nvidia releases those GF106 or GF108 cards.
With good airflow i could use the Thor's Hammer passive, since they also states it on their site.
Hayate M.
Case: Antec P183 (Removing included fans, will be using some Noctua or Nexus fans instead)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Thor's Hammer (And it seems i got an CoolIT ECO A.L.C too, since i pretty much got it for free )
MB: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 1.5TB WD Caviar Green WD15EARS (Raid 1) (Storage)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W (Couldn't get the Seasonic X-650 since there where not in stock :/)
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) (Quite the Low Voltage)
GPU: Using the IGP until Nvidia releases those GF106 or GF108 cards.
With good airflow i could use the Thor's Hammer passive, since they also states it on their site.
Hayate M.
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I finally received all my things and ended with this:
Case: Antec P183
Fans: x3 Nexus 120MM
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Thor's Hammer
MB: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 1.5TB WD Caviar Green WD15EARS (Storage) (Don't know how the hell i get these two set up for Raid 1 with the bios)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) (Made for Intel based boards, but could get it down to 1.275V instead :/)
GPU: ASUS BRAVO 220 (Passive ) http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=HLK4Pmu9lXkm0Q8o
Mats: What i can say about pump? it sucks (not the temps), it makes more noise than the fan that came with it :/
Case: Antec P183
Fans: x3 Nexus 120MM
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 120W
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Thor's Hammer
MB: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Storage: x1 80GB Intel X25-M G2 (OS) + x2 1.5TB WD Caviar Green WD15EARS (Storage) (Don't know how the hell i get these two set up for Raid 1 with the bios)
PSU: ENERMAX Modu87+Go 500W
RAM: Kingston HyperX LoVo 1333MHz 1.25V CL9 (9-9-9-27) (Made for Intel based boards, but could get it down to 1.275V instead :/)
GPU: ASUS BRAVO 220 (Passive ) http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=HLK4Pmu9lXkm0Q8o
Mats: What i can say about pump? it sucks (not the temps), it makes more noise than the fan that came with it :/
Last edited by Hayate19XX on Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
That's too bad, but that's what I suspected. You can probably sell it quite easy.Hayate19XX wrote:Mats: What i can say about pump? it sucks (not the temps), it makes more noise than the fan that came with it :/
I hope your air cooler is better!
Can you give me some advice about some decent computer stores in Copenhagen that sells components?
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There's many good store's, but not as cheap as the webshop's, but yeah they are around the place called "Falkoner allé" in the part of Copenhagen called "Frederiksberg"
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Completely forgot about pictures XD
http://img84.imageshack.us/g/dsc00312r.jpg/
Sorry about the quality >.<'
The GT220's passive heatsink did not quite work so swapped it out with the Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev.2, it almost couldn't fit but got it on somehow =.='
Thinking maybe swapping out the NH-D14 with the HR-02 from Thermalright when it arrive's
Else i might think about adding some AcoustiPack if that helps?
Edit: Asked Noiselimit when they will release the Silentflux, http://www.noiselimit.com/sw/frontend/s ... 0&layout=0 but the info i got from them was that they still wanted to ship OEM's only, for this year :/
http://img84.imageshack.us/g/dsc00312r.jpg/
Sorry about the quality >.<'
The GT220's passive heatsink did not quite work so swapped it out with the Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev.2, it almost couldn't fit but got it on somehow =.='
Thinking maybe swapping out the NH-D14 with the HR-02 from Thermalright when it arrive's
Else i might think about adding some AcoustiPack if that helps?
Edit: Asked Noiselimit when they will release the Silentflux, http://www.noiselimit.com/sw/frontend/s ... 0&layout=0 but the info i got from them was that they still wanted to ship OEM's only, for this year :/